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Acilen tecrübeli bir guard alınmalı. Alex Renfroe'nun sözleşmesinden bir an önce 3e 5e bakmadan çıkılmalı. Takım içi liderimiz yok maalesef.
 
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null && !["_blank", "_parent", "_self", "_top"].includes(windowName)) { return windowName; } return null; } function copyMissingProperties(src, dest) { var prop = void 0; for (prop in src) { try { if (dest[prop] === undefined && src[prop]) { dest[prop] = src[prop]; } } catch (e) {} } return dest; } function isOverlayish(el) { var style = el && el.style; if (style && /fixed|absolute/.test(style.position) && el.offsetWidth >= winWidth * 0.6 && el.offsetHeight >= winHeight * 0.75) { return true; } return false; } var capturingElement = null; // the element who registered to the event var srcElement = null; // the clicked on element var closestParentLink = null; if (window.event != null) { capturingElement = window.event.currentTarget; srcElement = window.event.srcElement; } if (srcElement != null) { closestParentLink = srcElement.closest('a'); if (closestParentLink && closestParentLink.href) { openWndArguments[3] = closestParentLink.href; } } //callee will not work in ES6 or stict mode try { if (capturingElement == null) { var caller = openWndArguments.callee; while (caller.arguments != null && caller.arguments.callee.caller != null) { caller = caller.arguments.callee.caller; } if (caller.arguments != null && caller.arguments.length > 0 && caller.arguments[0].currentTarget != null) { capturingElement = caller.arguments[0].currentTarget; } } } catch (e) {} ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Blocked if a click on background element occurred (<body> or document) ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// if (capturingElement == null) { window.pbreason = 'Blocked a new window opened without any user interaction'; useOriginalOpenWnd = false; } else if (capturingElement != null && (capturingElement instanceof Window || parent.Window && capturingElement instanceof parent.Window || capturingElement === document || capturingElement.URL != null && capturingElement.body != null || 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Date().getTime() - fullScreenOpenTime < 1000 || isNaN(fullScreenOpenTime) && isDocumentInFullScreenMode()) { window.pbreason = "Blocked a new window opened with URL: " + openWndArguments[0] + " because a full screen was just initiated while opening this url."; /* JRA REMOVED if (window[script_params.fullScreenFnKey]) { window.clearTimeout(window[script_params.fullScreenFnKey]); } */ if (document.exitFullscreen) { document.exitFullscreen(); } else if (document.mozCancelFullScreen) { document.mozCancelFullScreen(); } else if (document.webkitCancelFullScreen) { document.webkitCancelFullScreen(); } useOriginalOpenWnd = false; } ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// var openUrl = openWndArguments[0]; var inWhitelist = isInWhitelist(location.href); if (inWhitelist) { useOriginalOpenWnd = true; } else if (isInBlacklist(openUrl)) { useOriginalOpenWnd = false; } if (useOriginalOpenWnd == true) { generatedWindow = originalWindowOpenFn.apply(this, openWndArguments); // save the window by name, for latter use. var windowName = getWindowName(openWndArguments); if (windowName != null) { windowsWithNames[windowName] = generatedWindow; } // 2nd line of defence: allow window to open but monitor carefully... ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Kill window if a blur (remove focus) is called to that window ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// if (generatedWindow !== window) { var openTime = new Date().getTime(); var originalWndBlurFn = generatedWindow.blur; generatedWindow.blur = function () { if (new Date().getTime() - openTime < 1000 && !inWhitelist /* one second */) { window.pbreason = "Blocked a new window opened with URL: " + openWndArguments[0] + " because a it was blured"; generatedWindow.close(); blockedWndNotification(openWndArguments); } else { originalWndBlurFn(); } }; } 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geleneksel carlos arroyo geri dönsün kampanyasına başlayalım madem taraftar olarak :)

elimizde işleyemediğimiz cevherlerimiz var. oyun aklı yüksek bir oyuncu kurucu takıma katılsa kendi hiç atmasa da olur. yeter ki şu kaosun önüne geçip en azından oyunculara iyi yaptıklarını uygulayabilecekleri bir basketbol oynatsın.
 
Curtis Jerrels bu dakikadan sonra sadece ikinci ligde oynayan takımlara katkı verebilir.

Bir üstte Orhun'un söylediği oyun kurucu tamı tamına Stefan Jovic.Ama kendisinin Bayern'den ayrılması gibi bir ihtimal yok.Milyonları döksek yine vermezler.
 
Oyun kurucu transferi yapılacak mı? Bilgisi olan var mı? İkili oyunları iyi oynayan, şutu iyi bir guard mutlaka almalıyız. Hardy gönderilebilir. Christmas, Hendrix, Summers gibi hücumda iyi uzunlarımız var. Renfroe bugün iyiydi, double-double yaptı falan ama karşısında Berk Uğurlu vardı. Emir de yine iyiydi ama bu ikisine güvenilmez. Transfer mutlaka yapmalıyız.
 
Yeni koç için Oktay Mahmuti düşünülüyor iddiası var. Doğruluk payı ister %10 ister %90 olsun Oktay Mahmuti başımın tacıdır. Galatasaray'ımıza en çok yakıştırdığım insan. Bu kadro ile ne yapabilir bilmiyorum ama inşallah Doğuş maçı sonrası bir hamle gelir.
 
Yönetim sevinmiştir bu karara, zaten bir şey yapacakları yoktu. Şimdi bu da mazeretleri olur. Reziller. Aksilikler arka arkaya geliyor. Bu sene kabus gibi geçecek anlaşıldı.
 
Bence yönetim Erman Kunteri yollamaz. Haberler asılsız. Ancak yolladı, Oktay Mahmudi geldi diyelim, Oktay Mahmudinin de Erman Kunterden farkı yok. O da serbest düşüşte. Bizde başarılı mı başarısız mı oldu tartışılır, ancak bizden sonra net başarısızlığı var. Kendisini bir türlü geliştiremedi. En son Datçkada hala oynattığı demode basketbolda ısrar ediyordu. Hele bu kadro Oktay Hocanın kadrosu hiç değil. Bir kere Oktay Hocanın takımında oyun kurucu oyun görüşü açısından çok iyi olacak. Bizdeyken Tutku vardı mesela. Takım tempolu değil, daha kontrollü oynayacak, Hopson, Hardy, Summers, Renfoe, Rakeem ile kontrollü oyun zor. Birtek şut atan uzun da Summers cuk oturur o kadar.
Kısaca Oktay Hoca bu takıma hiç uymaz. Takıma mücadele katar o ayrı, ama o kadar. Erman Kunter'den iyidir ama ilerisi için umut vadeden bir seçim olmaz benim için. Daha iyi bir önerin var mı deseniz o da yok.
Ben bu senenin böyle geçeceğine artık kendimi hazırladım. Küme düşmeyelim hatta ucundan play-off yakalarsak iyi olur...
 
Mevcut durumumuza göre en iyi yolun iyi bir koç ile anlaşıp eldeki paraya göre yeni koça hamle şansı vermek olduğunu düşünüyorum. Eğer Kunter devam ederse ve 1,2 oyuncu alırsa ligden düşme noktasına kadar gelebiliriz...
 
Aslında fena bir oyuncu değil Jordan Taylor. Ceza şutları ve defansı iyi bir oyuncu. Tempoyu iyi ayarlar ama çok iyi pasör beklemeyin. Ben Avrupaya geldiğinde daha çok ses getireceğini tahmin ediyordum ama beklenen çıkışı yapamadı. Çok fazla atletik değil, boyu kısa ama güçlü bir oyuncu, zaten gücüyle dripling yapıyor. Bize yarar sağlar ama takımı derleyip toplamasını, bir Arroyo olmasını falan beklemeyin. İyi ve faydalı bir rol oyuncusu o kadar.

Takımın o kadar çok defosu varki.
 
Cem Şentürk' Alıntı:
İsrail Ligi ile devam ediyorum. İsrail bu sene daha önceki senelere nazaran kalitesiz geçti ve fazla ilgimi çeken bir oyuncu olmadı . Son iki gündür didik didik etmeme rağmen, bu çabamda sonuçsuz kaldı. Biraz Amerikalıların D-League kıvamında bir tarzı hep vardı bu ligin ama bu sene diğer senelerin aksine parlatabildikleri oyuncu sayısı çok az .

Hapoel Holon dikkatleri çekmişti ama play - off 'ta Lig sekizincisi Maccabi Haifa'ya çok kolay bir şekilde elendiler. . Haifa'da zaferin mimarı John Dibartolomeo oldu. İsrail ve Amerikan vatandaşı olan oyuncunun, dört maçta yakaladığı verimlilik ortalaması, 27.25.

Yatırım yapılabileceğini düşündüğüm ilk oyuncu play-off'taki başarısızlığa rağmen Holon'dan . Aslında , Holon'dan iki oyuncu önerecektim ama Khalif Wyatt sanırım Şubat ayında bir maçın hemen başlarında çapraz bağlarını kopardı ve sezonu kapattı. Onun yerine Tu Holloway alındı. Holon iki tane yönlendirici guardla oynamayı seviyor. Bunlardan biri benim Alba'ya gitmeden önce, övdüğüm ama Alba'da pek bir varlık gösteremeyen Jordan Taylor, diğeri de Tu Holloway. Bu iki oyuncuda play off'lara kadar oldukça iyi performans gösteriyorlardı. Bu noktada, bahsedeceğim ve değerli gördüğüm isim, 25 yaşındaki James Bell. James Bell'den bana daha önce Oğuzhan ve Aykut bahsetmişlerdi. Oyuncuyu detaylı incelediğim zamanda, yaratıcı bir kısa rotasyonunu çok iyi şekilde tamamlayabilecek bir parça olduğunu düşünüyorum. Fiziği oldukça iyi ve güçlü bir oyuncu. İyi bir şutör , pota altında etkili, iç alan ve dış alan savunması iyi, 5 ribaund ortalamasına sahip ve yine hızlı olmasa da gücüyle penetre yollarını açan bir oyuncu. Bir forvet için tek eksiği bence yaratıcılığı ve oyunu yönlendirmesi ama yinede dediğim gibi yaratıcı ve yönlendirici kısaları tamamlamak için güzel bir parça. Holon'da kendine uygun tip iki kısa oyuncu olduğu gözetilerek yatırım yapılmalı.

Diğer dikkatimi çeken oyuncu ise, Hapoel Eliat'ın genç yıldızı, Pierria Henry. Eliat'ın kısa pozisyonundaki tek yaratıcısı olan 24 yaşındaki Henry, 10.4 sayı ve 6.1 asist 5.2 ribaund ortalaması ile oynuyor. Eliat'ta topu getiren ve oyunu kuran oyuncu olmasına rağmen , bir PG için oldukça iyi fiziğe sahip, güçlü bir oyuncu. Bu durum zaten ribaund ortalamalarından da belli. Video koymuyorum .Youtube'da Eliat'ın bir çok maçının tamamı var. Kumaşı ve genel görüntüsü itibariyle bu oyuncuyu çok beğendim. Bire bir savunma ve üst seviyede tam saha baskı yerse zorlanma problemleri olduğunu düşünüyorum. Ancak yarı sahada kullanma tercih edilebileceği gibi, , Amerikalı basketbolcular için çok genç olduğunu unutmamak lazım. Doğru ellerde gelişirse, çok daha üst seviyede basketbol oynayacaktır. Eliat'ın bu yıl başarılı olmasında en önemli paya sahip olan oyuncu, Play-off'larada çok iyi başladı . Dört maçın verimlilik ortalaması 21.75

Yaşını almış oyunculardan, İsrail'de bu sezon en beğendiğim oyuncu Gregory Vargas oldu, Yine, Scotty Hopson'ın son durumunu iyi gördüm . İyi olduğu dönemdeki formuna göz kırpıyor gibi. İsrail'de Mark Lyons , Justin Carter vs gibi istatistik kağıdını dolduran bir çok oyuncu var. Ancak, bunların bir kısmı yaşlı, bir kısmı takım oyununa yatkın olmayan oyuncular. Pierria Henry ve James Bell'in takım oyununa yatkın, yatırım yapılabilecek, genç oyuncular olduğunu düşünüyorum.
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Jordan Taylor aslında bu başlıkta bile adı geçmiş bir oyuncu. 2015 transfer döneminde de Jeter transferinin yatmasından sonra yönlendirici bir kısa olarak bir kaç kez önermiştim.

Kısa rotasyonumuzda tempoyu ayarlayan, yönlendirici bir kısa eksikliğinden çoğumuz zaman zaman bahsediyoruz. Aslında bu tanıma uyabilecek bir oyuncu. Geçen yılda Holon'un çift guardlı sisteminde çok iyiydi. Holloway ve Wyatt'ın parlamasında önemli rol oynadı ve aynı şekilde Renfroe'yuda parlatabilir. Savunması da iyidir ve yukarıda Emre Bey'in söylediklerine katılıyorum. Kendisini İtalya'ya gelişinden beri takip ederim. Ancak, Alba sezonu büyük soru işareti.Zira, İtalya'da yaşadığı sakatlıktan sonra İsrail Ligi hariç bir ligde başarı gösterebilmiş değil.

Aslında oyuncu hakkındaki bilgilerden daha önemlisi çok geniş anlatmaya gerek olmayan sorun başka. Son maç başlıklarımızda mesajların %30'u 'ne oynadığımızı anlayan var mı?' şeklinde haklı sorularla dolu. Bu sorunun bu kadar çok olmasının sebebi, en temel hususlardan biri olan saha içi yerleşiminin bile minikler basketbol ligi seviyesinde olması. Oyuncuların bire beş tanımına dahi uymayan Amerikan Futbolu gibi yara yara içeriye girmeye çalışması, 4 ve 5 numaralarımızın orta mesafede top sektirirken kaptırdığı toplar, 24 saniyede hücum edememiz ve hatta 24 saniye biterken orada ne yaptığını anlamadığım Ege'nin son saniyede 3 sayı çizgisinin gerisinde elinde top patlaması vs. geçen bir arkadaşımızın savunmada ofsayt taktiği uyguladığımız gösteren ekran görüntüsü gibi daha saha içi yerleşimi yapamadığımızı gösteren onlarca nokta var. Saha içi yerleşim olmayan bir takımda , kimyadan , rollerden , akışkanlıktan ve diğer hususlardan bahsetmeye bile gerek yok .

Böyle bir düzensizlik içerisinde, kimi getirirseniz getirin bu iş olmaz. Önemli eksiklerimiz olsa da , Fener'in genç Türk oyuncularından ya da Buducnost'tan 20 25 sayı fark yiyecek takım değiliz. Öncelikle, bir yönetici ve en azından saha içi düzeni kurabilecek bir koç transferi şart. Onlar, transferleri kendi sistemlerine göre yapsınlar. Çünkü, devran böyle yürürse , bundan sonra muhtemel koç değişikliğinde ona bütçe kalmayacak. Bende isterim bu eksikleri Erman Hoca gidersin ancak hiç ışık vermiyor.
 
Dejan Radonjic boşta diye hatırlıyorum. Boşta olması bizim yöneticilerimiz için pek bir anlam ifade etmez gerçi onu buraya getirmeyi bir kenara bıraktım, Radonjic kim diye sorarlar.


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Egehan Çarkıt' Alıntı:
Dejan Radonjic boşta diye hatırlıyorum. Boşta olması bizim yöneticilerimiz için pek bir anlam ifade etmez gerçi onu buraya getirmeyi bir kenara bıraktım, Radonjic kim diye sorarlar.


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Oyun kurucu, pivot vb. geçtim. Stoper yada solbek filan zannederler herhalde. Akılları sadece futbola çalışıyor.
Onların koçu Erman Kunter. O adam takımı ligden düşürmeden gitmez. Yada giderse enkazı bırakır öyle gider. Boşuna koç aramayın.
 
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