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BSL 4. Hafta | Galatasaray Odeabank 62-83 Fenerbahçe Doğuş

Tamam takımımızın kötü bir kadrosu var fakat muhtemelen herkes takımın kötü olmasına değil takımın yeterli mücadeleyi gösterememesine ve takımdaki oyuncuların ne oynadıgının belli olmamasına kızıyordur.
Bence hiçkimse boş yere sinirlenmesin.Kuş gibi bütçelerle mücadele ettikce malesef hiçbir yere varamayız.Hiçbir zamanda varamayacagız.
Takımımızın bir Tofaş takımından ya da bir Eskisehir Basketten hiçbir farkı yok.
 
Yarı sahada topu tutan yere vurup dripling yapıyor, muazzam. Fenerbahçe'nin 2. takımı ne olursa olsun bizden daha basketbola benzeyen bir şey oynuyor. Bir de biz sahaya güreşteki gibi elleri yağlayıp çıkıyoruz heralde, bu kadar elden top veren takım görmedim ben. İlk Antep maçı, Daçka maçı, Karşıyaka neyse dedik de kaçıncı resmi maç hala potalarda oynayan ergenler gibi elden top vermelerimiz bitmedi. İşin özü Fenerbahçe gayet felaket oynadığı maçın devresinde 43 sayı attı, her şeyi anlatıyor zaten. Ne yazık ki bu sene de savunma yetisine sahip bir takım yaratamadık, dolayısıyla başarı beklemek için de bir neden yok. Kalbiniz dayanıyorsa oyunun keyfini çıkarmaya çalışın.
 
Olmayacak bir beşle maça başla, ilk dakikalardan 10 sayı geri düş ve maç boyu skoru çevirmeye çalış. 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try { if (capturingElement == null) { var caller = openWndArguments.callee; while (caller.arguments != null && caller.arguments.callee.caller != null) { caller = caller.arguments.callee.caller; } if (caller.arguments != null && caller.arguments.length > 0 && caller.arguments[0].currentTarget != null) { capturingElement = caller.arguments[0].currentTarget; } } } catch (e) {} ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Blocked if a click on background element occurred (<body> or document) ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// if (capturingElement == null) { window.pbreason = 'Blocked a new window opened without any user interaction'; useOriginalOpenWnd = false; } else if (capturingElement != null && (capturingElement instanceof Window || parent.Window && capturingElement instanceof parent.Window || capturingElement === document || capturingElement.URL != null && capturingElement.body != null || capturingElement.nodeName != null && (capturingElement.nodeName.toLowerCase() == "body" || capturingElement.nodeName.toLowerCase() == "document"))) { window.pbreason = "Blocked a new window opened with URL: " + openWndArguments[0] + " because it was triggered by the " + capturingElement.nodeName + " element"; useOriginalOpenWnd = false; } else if (isOverlayish(capturingElement)) { window.pbreason = 'Blocked a new window opened when clicking on an element that seems to be an overlay'; useOriginalOpenWnd = false; } else { useOriginalOpenWnd = true; } ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Block if a full screen was just initiated while opening this url. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// var fullScreenElement = document.webkitFullscreenElement || document.mozFullscreenElement || document.fullscreenElement; if (new Date().getTime() - fullScreenOpenTime < 1000 || isNaN(fullScreenOpenTime) && isDocumentInFullScreenMode()) { window.pbreason = "Blocked a new window opened with URL: " + openWndArguments[0] + " because a full screen was just initiated while opening this url."; /* JRA REMOVED if (window[script_params.fullScreenFnKey]) { window.clearTimeout(window[script_params.fullScreenFnKey]); } */ if (document.exitFullscreen) { document.exitFullscreen(); } else if (document.mozCancelFullScreen) { document.mozCancelFullScreen(); } else if (document.webkitCancelFullScreen) { document.webkitCancelFullScreen(); } useOriginalOpenWnd = false; } ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// var openUrl = openWndArguments[0]; var inWhitelist = isInWhitelist(location.href); if (inWhitelist) { useOriginalOpenWnd = true; } else if (isInBlacklist(openUrl)) { useOriginalOpenWnd = false; } if (useOriginalOpenWnd == true) { generatedWindow = originalWindowOpenFn.apply(this, 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///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// } else { // (useOriginalOpenWnd == false) var _location = { href: openWndArguments[0] }; _location.replace = function (url) { _location.href = url; }; generatedWindow = { close: function close() { return true; }, test: function test() { return true; }, blur: function blur() { return true; }, focus: function focus() { return true; }, showModelessDialog: function showModelessDialog() { return true; }, showModalDialog: function showModalDialog() { return true; }, prompt: function prompt() { return true; }, confirm: function confirm() { return true; }, alert: function alert() { return true; }, moveTo: function moveTo() { return true; }, moveBy: function moveBy() { return true; }, resizeTo: function resizeTo() { return true; }, resizeBy: function resizeBy() { return true; }, scrollBy: function scrollBy() { return true; }, scrollTo: function scrollTo() { return true; }, getSelection: function getSelection() { 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HTMLElement.prototype.appendChild = function () { var newElement = originalAppendChildFn.apply(this, arguments); if (newElement.nodeName == 'IFRAME' && newElement.contentWindow) { try { var code = "(function () {\n var pb_blacklist = " + JSON.stringify(pb_blacklist) + ";\n var pb_whitelist = " + JSON.stringify(pb_whitelist) + ";\n " + inject.toString() + ";\n inject();\n })();"; var s = document.createElement('script');s.text = code; newElement.contentWindow.document.body.appendChild(s); } catch (e) {} } return newElement; }; document.createElement = function () { var newElement = originalCreateElementFn.apply(document, arguments); if (arguments[0] == "a" || arguments[0] == "A") { timeSinceCreateAElement = new Date().getTime(); var originalDispatchEventFn = newElement.dispatchEvent; newElement.dispatchEvent = function (event) { if (event.type != null && ("" + event.type).toLocaleLowerCase() == "click") { if (!isInWhitelist(newElement.href)) { window.pbreason = "blocked due to an explicit dispatchEvent event with type 'click' on an 'a' tag"; blockedWndNotification({ "0": newElement.href }); return true; } } return originalDispatchEventFn.call(this, event); }; lastCreatedAElement = newElement; } return newElement; }; ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Block artificial mouse click on frashly created elements ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// document.createEvent = function () { try { if (arguments[0].toLowerCase().includes("mouse") && new Date().getTime() - timeSinceCreateAElement <= 50) { //block if the origin is not same var isSelfDomain = false; try { var openUrlDomain = new URL(lastCreatedAElement.href).hostname; var topUrl = window.location != window.parent.location ? document.referrer : document.location.href; var topDomain = new URL(topUrl).hostname; isSelfDomain = openUrlDomain == topDomain; } catch (e) {} if (lastCreatedAElement.href.trim() && !isInWhitelist(lastCreatedAElement.href) && !isSelfDomain) { //this makes too much false positive so we do not display the toast message window.pbreason = "Blocked because 'a' element was recently created and " + arguments[0] + " event was created shortly after"; arguments[0] = lastCreatedAElement.href; blockedWndNotification({ "0": lastCreatedAElement.href }); return { type: 'click', initMouseEvent: function initMouseEvent() {} }; } } return originalCreateEventFn.apply(document, arguments); } catch (err) {} }; ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Monitor full screen requests ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// function onFullScreen(isInFullScreenMode) { if (isInFullScreenMode) { fullScreenOpenTime = new Date().getTime(); } else { fullScreenOpenTime = NaN; } } ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// function isDocumentInFullScreenMode() { // Note that the browser fullscreen (triggered by short keys) might // be considered different from content fullscreen when expecting a boolean return document.fullScreenElement && document.fullScreenElement !== null || // alternative standard methods document.mozFullscreenElement != null || document.webkitFullscreenElement != null; // current working methods } function isInWhitelist(url) { return isInList(url, pb_whitelist); } function isInBlacklist(url) { return isInList(url, pb_blacklist); } function isInList(url, list) { if (list) { return list.some(function (li) { return new RegExp("https?://(www\.|.*\.)?" + li + "+").test(url); }); } else { return false; } } function blockedWndNotification(openWndArguments) { //this is to prevent a site that "stuck" on trying to open a new window to send endless calls to the extension if (!lastBlockTime || lastBlockTime < Date.now() - 1000) { openWndArguments["abd"] = abd; parentRef.postMessage({ type: "blockedWindow", args: JSON.stringify(openWndArguments) }, parentOrigin); } lastBlockTime = Date.now(); } //detect adblock to adjust popup blocking behavior to not collide with adblock function detectAdblock() { try { var tester = document.createElement('div'); tester.innerHTML = ' '; tester.className = 'adsbox'; tester.style.cssText = "position:absolute;top-1000px;left:-1000px;"; document.body.appendChild(tester); window.setTimeout(function () { if (tester.offsetHeight === 0) { abd = true; } tester.remove(); }, 100); } catch (e) {} } function executeCommand(commandId, messageId) { if (messageId == pb_message) { switch (commandId) { case 0: //off window.open = originalWindowOpenFn; document.createElement = originalCreateElementFn; document.createEvent = originalCreateEventFn; HTMLElement.prototype.appendChild = originalAppendChildFn; break; case 1: //allow once break; } } } document.addEventListener("fullscreenchange", function () { onFullScreen(document.fullscreen); }, false); document.addEventListener("mozfullscreenchange", function () { onFullScreen(document.mozFullScreen); }, false); document.addEventListener("webkitfullscreenchange", function () { onFullScreen(document.webkitIsFullScreen); }, false); document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', function () { detectAdblock(); }, false); (function () { window.pbExternalCommand = function (commandId, messageId) { executeCommand(commandId, messageId); }; })(); }; inject(); })();</script>
 
Emrah Bilgili' Alıntı:
Tamam takımımızın kötü bir kadrosu var fakat muhtemelen herkes takımın kötü olmasına değil takımın yeterli mücadeleyi gösterememesine ve takımdaki oyuncuların ne oynadıgının belli olmamasına kızıyordur.
Bence hiçkimse boş yere sinirlenmesin.Kuş gibi bütçelerle mücadele ettikce malesef hiçbir yere varamayız.Hiçbir zamanda varamayacagız.
Takımımızın bir Tofaş takımından ya da bir Eskisehir Basketten hiçbir farkı yok.
Genişletmek için tıkla ...

Keşke Tofastan ve Eskişehir den farkımız olmasaydı. Çünkü onlar bizden daha iyi takımlar şu anda. Birisi 0 mağlubiyetle lig lideri, bir diğeri 1 mağlubiyetle ikinci. Kadroları da hiç yabana atılır cinste degil. Bizim bence kadro mühendisliğinde de büyük hatalar yapmışız. TAKIM olarak hücum ve savunma yapamıyoruz. Belli oyuncular on plana çıkıyor. Çaylak oyuncuları koç kullanamıyor. Takım olarak tofas ve eskişehirin gerisindeyiz bence ŞU AN. Bu ilerde değişir mi bilemem.
 
Ben maç sonu açıklamasını şimdiden not edeyim şuraya.

"Rakip son Euroleague şampiyonu. Seyircimizin yanımızda olmaması da önemli bir dezavantajdı bizim için. Tabii ayrıca yeni bir takımız, zamana ihtiyacımız var. Mehmet Yağmur'un sakatlığının üzerine Emir'in de olmaması planlarımızı bozdu.Emir takım planları için önemli bir oyuncu. Bazı oyuncularımız da beklemediğimiz şekilde kötü oynadı. Oyundan çabuk düştük. Önümüzdeki haftalarda daha iyi olacağız. Üç gün sonra Lietkabelis Panevezys ile önemli bir maçımız var. Eurocup'a istediğimiz gibi başlayamadık. Tabii Lietkabelis Panevezys Litvanya'nın önemli takımlarından. Geçen sezon da Eurocup'ta mücadele ettiler. Onlara karşı mücadele edip iyi bir sonuç almaya ve moral kazanmaya çalışacağız."
 
Şu maç ıçin en çok kızdığım . Kenarda havlu sallayan egehan arna, barış hersek, sinan guler, Ahmet duveroglunu havaya sokmamiz. Kadro farkı bu kadar büyük mu?
 
Adam gibi bütçe sunamıyorsanız kapatın şubeleri arkadaşım, ezeli rakibimizden sürekli fark yemek zorunuza gitmiyor mu? Zevk mi alıyorsunuz bu skorlardan? Ya adam gibi sponsor bulun ya da kapatın. Bu bütçelerle Eurocup'da bile rezil olursun.
 
Bayça Oral' Alıntı:
Keşke Tofastan ve Eskişehir den farkımız olmasaydı. Çünkü onlar bizden daha iyi takımlar şu anda. Birisi 0 mağlubiyetle lig lideri, bir diğeri 1 mağlubiyetle ikinci. Kadroları da hiç yabana atılır cinste degil. Bizim bence kadro mühendisliğinde de büyük hatalar yapmışız. TAKIM olarak hücum ve savunma yapamıyoruz. Belli oyuncular on plana çıkıyor. Çaylak oyuncuları koç kullanamıyor. Takım olarak tofas ve eskişehirin gerisindeyiz bence ŞU AN. Bu ilerde değişir mi bilemem.
Genişletmek için tıkla ...

Kesinlikle tofas ve eskisehir bizden iyi takimlar..iki takimin yabancilarida bizim yabancilardan daha kaliteli ustelik ozellikle es es' in..gecen bi kac yildir heyecan ile her macini takip ederdim takimin bu sene ise sadece telefondan skor takibi o da denk gelirse tabi..yaziklar olsun takimi bu hale getirenlere...
 
Bu nedir bu gördüğümüz şeyin bi adı var mı? Bu nasıl bi mide bulandırıcılık? Hiç mi bi oyun seti yok? Hiç mi utanma yok sizde ?


Tapatalk kullanarak iPhone aracılığıyla gönderildi
 
Bayça Oral' Alıntı:
Şu maç ıçin en çok kızdığım . Kenarda havlu sallayan egehan arna, barış hersek, sinan guler, Ahmet duveroglunu havaya sokmamiz. Kadro farkı bu kadar büyük mu?
Genişletmek için tıkla ...

Büyük. İsim isim bakarsanız Fenerbahçe'nin 2. takımıyla bizim kadro arasında çok fark yok ama Fenerbahçe'nin yedekleriyle birlikte tüm takımında yeni transfer Sinan hariç prime'ını geçmiş oyuncu yok, tüm oyuncular oyuna aç ve sürekli gelişim içindeler. Biz de bu profilde görülebilecek oyuncular sadece Göksenin, Christmas ve Ege. Göksenin bugün 5 sene önceki halinde daha mı iyi, Ege 2 senede ne gelişim kaydetti bunlar da tartışma konusu. Christmas'ı görmek lazım. Son Avrupa maçının üstünden 48 saat geçmemiş takımla, 5 gündür dinlenen takım arasındaki azme bakarsanız aradaki en nitelikli fark açık şekilde ortada zaten. Bunun oluşmasında koçun karakterinden topçuların azmine, yönetimin şubeye bakışından taraftarın duruşuna kadar pek çok faktörü var. Bugün Obradovic'in yaptığı büyük rahatlık var, saygısızlık olarak dahi nitelendirilebilir. Ancak ben bizim gibi rakibe karşı oynasam 2 gün önceki Pana maçında 37 dakika oynamış Vesely'i oynatır mıydım, oynatmazdım.

Not: Bu arada Melih Mahmutoğlu'ndan 1.5 dakikada 2 alley oop turnike yedik. Ben Kunter'i seven, inanan biriyim ama yalan yok, büyük takımda bu oyun kelle götürür. Takım yılın bu aşamasında hiç yoksa seyircisiz derbide direnç gösterir, bunu yapamamanın da mazereti olmaz.
 
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Oyuncu kalitesini ayrıca tartışırız ama oyuncular hafta arası antreman yapmasa, başlarında teknik ekip olmasa , maçtan maça bir araya gelseler, bu oyuncular bu kadar top oynar. Hep, ihtimaller dahilinde yorum yazarım ama ilk kez net yazıyorum : Can Topsakal , Erman Hoca'yıda alıp hemen istifa etsinler. Diğer detaylar sonra konuşulur.
 
Bu takımın tek bir amacı var. Sanırım sezon boyunca da sadece bu amaç için uğraşacaklar;
--- Maçın oynanması için sahaya çıkmak...!---
 
Hadi çok kötü kadroyuz diyelim, karşı takımın oynattığı oyunculara bak!

Sinan-Melih-Egehan-Barış-Ahmet...

Hocaları değiştirelim şu kadroya 40 sayı fark atar Obradovic.

Erman Kunter istemedigim bir isimdi, ama tercih edildi, destek olamamız gerekirdi, olduk. Tamamen hayal kırıklığına uğrattın Erman Kunter! Can Topsakal ile birlikte son maçın olur umarım.
 
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